posted by driftr on December 03, 1997 at 21:31:22:
in reply to: About art 'on' the web posted by exisle on November 28, 1997 at 15:54:47:
methodology, for the web or anywhere else for that matter
First a repris, (with apologies to exisle:) I have only this to say about ignorance; it jumps out at you when and where you least expect it. Sometimes it shocks but mostly it surprises me. As for confusion, I can say only this: we all live in only hope that we can communicate despite our ignorance. ok. to respond to your message: I had, and I emphasize the past tense here, HAD, a hard time figuring out what your beef was, exisle. I mean it's not like anybody directly rubbed you the wrong way or stepped on your toes during the workshop for you to start throwing around inuendos about ignorance. Since the beginning of the workshop you insisted on bringing up issues in such a way that any preset agenda the organizers might have had was effectively preempted while other participants' interests in learning something technical during our sessions slipped by the wayside. I was ready to take you to task for this but I've thought about your message here for several days now and finally it dawns on me that your approach is not so much about anger and it is about something else: a wholly different approach to workshops, to collective effort, to art content perhaps. I think you've been trying to say that you wanted to start out from the beginning talking about issues of ideology, politics, difference, etc. and that you felt this possibility was precluded by the format of the workshops, which was definitely technical. If I've got it right I think you could have just said so without tearing a strip off the organizers and maybe we could have worked out a way to do that. Your conclusions in the message posted here are striking in their contrast to what precedes them and I have to agree that the individual projects are interesting and provocative in many political ways that indicate nothing of the technical preoccupations or failure to touch reality that you are so concerned about. I agree with youl it is to everyone's credit that they focussed on their work, their art, technical matters becoming an integral part, neither dominant nor subservient to, their thinking. I am not ignorant of the fact that there are ways of workshopping that promote issue-based exchange. Perhaps the organizers will pursue that another time. I regret in a way that this was not that time. I regret more that I did not see what you were getting at, catching your "drift" earlier exisle. But in the end, I regret the hours lost trying to make this a time it was clearly not going to be.
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